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Why is Google so ugly?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:38 AM EST
business, technology, internet, google, design, tech, graphics
By mikey anderson
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The highest valued media company in the world shovels out graphic design like they're cleaning the barn. In disbelief I watch Google launching services weeks apart, all of which appear to be designed in Kid Pix. Don't misunderstand, I have a Gmail account, use Gtalk, have a handy Google search bar in the upper right corner of my browser, track my blog with Google Analytics, and probably am on a Google site 20 times a day. Their design just sucks. Look at the column to the right. I would have been embarassed to turn those in as a highschool project. Google, please make it better. I like your stuff but its ugly.

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mikey anderson

I don't know what's going on with the picture. It's black and grainy sometimes, and others the normal Google logo.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:52 PM EST
Jason Latimer

I think you present an interesting point, but I disagree. I think the simplistic design not only makes things less confusing to navigate, but for every development that is made, it seems more impressive that such a "simple" site has such impressive features. I think a more complex design would be a huge mistake for google.

I can think of one site off the top of my head that (in my opinion) suffered greatly from a design overhall, that being allmusic.com. They opted for a more complex design and I think the site lost a lot of its personality.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:39 AM EST
James Healey

I disagree. I believe the simplicity works for itself. Look at Yahoo, look at Lycos... they've filled the front page of their sites with stuff most people don't use. Google don't do that. They give you only what you need to get the job done. Everythings clear, everythings simple yet very powerful.

Just because it doesn't look like the current band-wagon (Web 2.0), doesn't mean it's ugly.

That, and I seldom take advice from someone on design who uses a slightly modified template for their own blog ;)

  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:03 AM EST
mikey anderson

What I'm saying is that their templates are not clean, their logo is awkward and 90's photoshop style. I love their simplistic code design, but their graphic design is dirty.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:24 AM EST
mikey anderson

They should go for clean, low clutter, and useful. Much like Apple is doing right now.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:25 AM EST
James Healey

I fail to see how the front page of Google.com isn't clean, low clutter, or useful.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:32 AM EST
mikey anderson

Going into photoshop, typing the word google, coloring each letter, then hitting bevel and emboss, then shadow makes a sleazy looking logo. I appreciate apparent simplicity. A toilet in a motel may look smooth and uncluttered, however it still has some gnarly looking crevices. I think Google should learn a lesson from newsvine who is clean, simple, and easy to use. And I'm out

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:41 AM EST
atoast

Couldn't the reason be that Google tries to minimize the load on the webservers? Just imagine what the cost of 10kb of extra pictures on the Google.com frontpage would increase the traffic cost - we are probably talking about billions of hits per day.

    Reply#8 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:52 AM EST
    James Healey

    Google's logo, while simple to recreate, is their brand identity. Everyone who's used a computer in the last 3 years knows who or what Google is. To change an already successful brand, and to do so to keep the identity to keep up with the times is ludicrous, costly and moreover, pointless.

    Microsoft's logo is easy to recreate. Pick the font Helvetica, set it to italic & bold... simple. But you don't see them changing their logo because it's too 80's, do you?

    But maybe you should e-mail Google and let them know. I'm sure they'd care.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#9 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:54 AM EST
    Hadj

    Google's services are used by the whole world. Google has to say attractive without adding or changing elements, because practically these elements could be accounted as risks. I know, for example, website design differ from country to country (let alone age groups et cetera). Google has to be attractive to everyone.

    If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
    Think about that for a second.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#10 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:53 AM EST
    akj

    Mikey,

    I have to strongly disagree as well. Coming from a graphic design standpoint, I like that they are simple, elegant and unique. There is no clutter or over-design in the logo at all. It says a lot about who they are, as any good logo would.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#11 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:12 AM EST
    crynyd

    And the moment Google does redesign their logo, they'll be called out for jumping the shark.

    I think Google should learn a lesson from newsvine who is clean, simple, and easy to use.

    I can't even agree with the Newsvine point anymore as—though I hate to say it—more features are popping up in the same space, giving it a cluttered feel. Even Google's personalized homepage presents a lot of information to me in a concise, clean manner.

    I think most WYSIWYG designer sites are going to have a handful of bad templates, but if you're going to pick those out alone and decry the entire organization's design... well, I guess I'd heed your point more if you were talking about the Video interface.

      Reply#12 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:23 AM EST
      xed

      Two phrases come to mind:

      Keep it simple, stupid.
      If it works, dont fix it.

        Reply#13 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:43 AM EST
        xed

        Hmm, preview is broken. Must remember to use
        next time.

          Reply#14 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:46 AM EST
          stdmedia

          I always thought that the reason for google's simplistic design was to reduce the bandwidth load on the servers. Looking back at it though it may just be easier for most users to navigate if they're not bombarded with design elements. I get lost when too many elements are showing up at one time, or I just tune them out all together.

            Reply#15 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:36 AM EST
            Blake Helms

            I have no problem with the home page but I agree with the author on all of Google's other projects. Simple and functional does not have to be ugly (ie. Apple). Everything they do has this 90's web-design feel to it. I am surprised they are not using image maps to build their sites. The few slick looking UIs that Google has have come from products that they have purchased. Google with all their money should buy a design firm and this would all be over.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#16 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:43 AM EST
            mariachi77

            I think Google proves the point that beautiful graphic design though not without its merits is not necessary to make a winning product or page. The design of Google pages, though sparse, do their job well and load quickly. Who would want anything else?

              Reply#17 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:11 AM EST
              Dr Juice

              They're logo looks better than it used to.

              http://www.google.com/">Circa 1998

              And here's a collection of them dating all the way back to the time Google was Backrub. The second-to-last one may well be the most hideous thing ever, besides goatse.

              And keep in mind Google values engineers, not so much designers. As Doug Edwards wrote on the Xooglers blog,

              Google tended to hire smart Stanford grads and set them loose in the halls. If they didn't secure a role elsewhere, they ended up in marketing, where the assumption seemed to be that no special skills were required, as long as you could think quickly and were willing to work hard.

              He also says that in the beginning Lary and Sergey handled everything, including UI design.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#18 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:50 AM EST
              Edward Sebastian

              Andy Rutledge: Google Redux. It's worth a read. Google has serious design flaws. Anybody who denies that is just so use to it that they can no longer see this. Please read Andy's article as it is a far more in-depth review of Google's approach than just a few sentences of opinion.

              I don't necessarily agree with the large blue bits, but the design, not the style, is the important bit of that articlw.

              The tictac template though (3rd image in the column) is awesome and was designed by Dan the Man Cederholm who is not a designer to be sneezed at. You call that bad design? Phht. The blogger templates are phenomenal.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#19 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:06 AM EST
              ThePerchik

              Its important to understand the people that work at google, a few that I have met. Basically they are all PHD or on their way, very smart and bright individuals. BUT, they are all engineers, computer scientists, and/or math people. Fitting that category myself and using the system and web-applications that I design and work on, I see many similarities. People like us just make it work, and try to make it clean and simple. We do not concern ourselves with sprinkles. I agree, they can polish it up and make it a little more "pretty" but at the same time I have to appreciate the simplicity and simple look.

                Reply#20 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:01 PM EST
                mikey anderson

                I think that I may be the man against the grain. I wasn't even thinking I would be provocative on this one.
                Let me illustrate this with my experiance with blogger: I was frustrated because to get anything that has style, I had to go off blogger and find a different template because none were adequate. I'm excited to see when they make something like iWeb (only better and fully online), as a Web 2.0 blogging tool. I want to make my stuff beautiful. I want to personalize it so that it looks nothing like someone Else's. Now, it seems blogs look like cars. Sure there are a bunch of them, but you see the same model like 20 times a day.

                This may be the problem: I know a fair amount about graphic design. However, I no a minimal amount about the css that goes into making one of these template. Is it really hard? Maybe it is and I'm being unreasonable.

                  Reply#21 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:05 PM EST
                  mikey anderson

                  It would be interesting to take a group of different types of people: programmers, artist, grandmas, kids, etc. and see what they think. Maybe the truth is that I'm just an odd duck, or maybe programing PHDs see the beauty of the whole over the beauty of it's parts.

                    Reply#22 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:09 PM EST
                    Rob Goodlatte

                    Edward,

                    I've read Andy Rutledge's article before, and I honestly disagree with almost every point he makes. But the biggest mistake he makes is not addressing intuitiveness and familiarity. Quite simply, Google's interface has been used by billions over the past 8 years. Changing it so radically as he suggests should be a crime.

                    Intuitive interfaces aren't some a priori concept. What we call "intuitive" is a result of past experiences. If we've used an interface for 8 years, that interface becomes integrated into our concept of intuitiveness.

                    Look at how Google's interface has changed over the past 8 years. Much of what he circled and asked "why is this here" is what was added - account login, user preferences, business information, advanced search features. I think those things are separated 100% intentionally. If they were integrated more tightly with the other information on the page, it would dilute that intuitive experience we've all become used to. Things are compartmentalized and separated intentionally - to build upon the base interface which has become intuitive to all of Google's users.

                    And I know you said you agree with the design and not the style, but his entire point in the design was to be purposeful with his text placement. But look at the seemingly arbitrarily placed blue bar at the top of the page and the attention-grabbing blue gradient at the bottom. It's graphics for the sake of graphics and it undermines his entire argument.

                    Now, for all the people wanting Google to change it's logo, I also couldn't disagree more. Firstoff, as others have mentioned, the multi-colored Google type is Google's brand. People associate and connect with the brand, and changing it disrupts that. As far as claiming the brand looks unprofessional - grow up. Google's always said through their actions (employee dress code, company structure, innovations) that professionalism isn't measured by the dress code of employees or how ordinary and boring a logo is. The logo conveys an attitude that Google is creative, fun, and unique. I don't care if it looks similar to what you can whip up with your pirated copy of Photoshop and neither does Google.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#23 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:13 PM EST
                    AKG

                    I don't have a problem with the Google logo -- in fact I kind of like it. Everything else they do is atrocious though. Google Video is an absolute embarassment. It feels like walking into a really slummy adult video store.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#24 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:14 PM EST
                    mikey anderson

                    One example of Google cleaning up It would be easy for them to slowly update their style. Every couple of days they change their logo to have something relevant in it. I think they should slowly evolve it so that it turns into something like the above linked suggestion.

                      Reply#25 - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:26 PM EST
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